Silver
Senior Member
Chongqing
Chinese,Cantonese,Sichuan dialect
- Nov 13, 2014
- #1
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Hi,
I have a question about "preparation":
My uncle is going to celebrate his birthday next month and he’s going to hold a big party. I wonder if they all are okay.
My uncle is
making preparation for his birthday celebration in next month.
My uncle is
for his birthday celebration in next month.
My uncle is
for his birthday celebration in next month.
(The birthday celebration is in next month and my uncle will rehearse it several times first.)
Thanks a lot
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Glasguensis
Signal Modulation
France
English - Scotland
- Nov 13, 2014
- #2
You can say "making preparations". The other two suggestions don't work.
Silver
Senior Member
Chongqing
Chinese,Cantonese,Sichuan dialect
- Nov 13, 2014
- #3
Glasguensis said:
You can say "making preparations". The other two suggestions don't work.
Thanks a lot
I still have a minor question:
My uncle is
making preparations for his birthday celebration in next month.
Is the "in" necessary? I think it is because "next month" is not an adverbial phrase here, right. It refers to time.
se16teddy
Senior Member
London but from Yorkshire
English - England
- Nov 13, 2014
- #4
Silverobama said:
my uncle will rehearse it several times first
"Making preparations" does not normally suggest any kind of rehearsal. What exactly is your uncle doing to prepare? Is he reading his speech out over and over again so he knows it by heart?
Silver
Senior Member
Chongqing
Chinese,Cantonese,Sichuan dialect
- Nov 13, 2014
- #5
se16teddy said:
"Making preparations" does not normally suggest any kind of rehearsal. What exactly is your uncle doing to prepare? Is he reading his speech out over and over again so he knows it by heart?
He's preparing to give a speech first. And then invites his leaders to the stage to say something. And then invites my grandmother to the stage to say something, etc.
Glasguensis
Signal Modulation
France
English - Scotland
- Nov 13, 2014
- #6
As se16teddy says, we would not generally understand that type of preparation from "making preparations", but it is indeed part of the preparations and therefore there's nothing wrong with using it. If you really want people to understand what he's doing, however, you need to be more explicit (he's rehearsing his speech, for example).
Not only is the "in" not required, it's wrong to have it.
Silver
Senior Member
Chongqing
Chinese,Cantonese,Sichuan dialect
- Nov 13, 2014
- #7
Glasguensis said:
As se16teddy says, we would not generally understand that type of preparation from "making preparations", but it is indeed part of the preparations and therefore there's nothing wrong with using it. If you really want people to understand what he's doing, however, you need to be more explicit (he's rehearsing his speech, for example).
Not only is the "in" not required, it's wrong to have it.
I've discussed the question about "rehearsal" in this thread, please take a look if you are interested. In order to avoid misunderstanding, I use "making preparations", because that's general and understandable.
As for "in", why is it wrong?
I am going to NYC next month.
I am going to NYC in next month.
I understand this.
But here "in" emphasizes the time, doesn't it?
Glasguensis
Signal Modulation
France
English - Scotland
- Nov 13, 2014
- #8
When you specify time like this (next week, last year, tomorrow), you don't use a preposition at all. You can use "in" with a time phrase but it changes the meaning :
I am going to NYC next month - currently it is 13 November, so my trip to NYC is sometime between 1 December and 31 December
I am going to NYC in the next month (or within the next month) - currently it is 13 November so my trip is sometime between now and 13 December.
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EdisonBhola
Senior Member
Korean
- Jan 13, 2017
- #9
Glasguensis said:
You can say "making preparations". The other two suggestions don't work.
Why is it wrong to use "make preparation". If I'm not mistaken, "preparation" is uncountable when it refers to the process of preparing, and countable when it refers to specific activities done as preparation.
Is there a reliable way to tell when it is correct to use either one? Many thanks!
Glasguensis
Signal Modulation
France
English - Scotland
- Jan 13, 2017
- #10
It's simply not idiomatic. We always talk about making preparations. You can think of it as an idiomatic expression.
DonnyB
Moderator Emeritus
Coventry, UK
English UK Southern Standard English
- Jan 13, 2017
- #11
EdisonBhola said:
Why is it wrong to use "make preparation". If I'm not mistaken, "preparation" is uncountable when it refers to the process of preparing, and countable when it refers to specific activities done as preparation.
It's because, while "the preparation of food", for example is uncountable, when you use "preparation(s)" with the meaning of things you do to get ready for an event, it's always plural.
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EdisonBhola
Senior Member
Korean
- Jan 13, 2017
- #12
DonnyB said:
It's because, while "the preparation of food", for example is uncountable, when you use "preparation(s)" with the meaning of things you do to get ready for an event, it's always plural.
This is something non-natives like me will never truly understand.
But thanks for your help.
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